It seems likely to me that Apple will block a large number of apps created using Flash under the clause that states “3.3.2 An Application may not itself install or launch other executable code by any means, including without limitation through the use of a plug-in architecture, calling other frameworks, other APIs or otherwise. No interpreted code may be downloaded and used in an Application except for code that is interpreted and run by Apple’s Published APIs and built-in interpreter(s).”, given that Adobe’s implementation works this way (it is essentially Flash Player with the flash file embedded) – not to mention Flash’s commonly-used ability to import swf files into the timeline.

Brandon,
Is your blog hacked by this “Rick”? How come
he said things like a no brainer. How can you bare “rick” to bullshit here? Did he really use those
open source development tools? Most of those tools are proven unmatured. I don’t believe that he even tried to use
one to develop any app. I tried some open source development tools, some companies are funded by VC.
They can do very very limited thing, none of them can produce a “real” app.

Has anyone ever counted how many hoops we developers have to jump through just to get an App on iTunes? I have lost count…
How can Flash developers think that they will just be able to “stick it on” to the iPhone without jumping through ALL of the hoops?
I admit i need to read more on how they make Apps, but what i have read so far makes it seem like they are going from A-Z without going through BCDEFG…..

I just don’t really see what “rick” is trying to get at. Everyone knows Apple only selects applications that were developed appropriately according to Apple’s standards and they only applaud an application that has been applauded in there own offices. So ofcourse the black box exists, it’s where all the apps that didn’t make it to the app store go. Unfortunately even though some of them are great applications. (use pandora’s box application to browse through these “black box” applications)

We’ve experimented with JQTouch and found it great yet unfinished product.

Also, note that Apple rejects any PhoneGap made applications submitted to ITunes due to licensing and use of SDK.

It’s very hard to predict if your app will be rejected as you were seeking to make a quick development process without the use of Iphone SDK (objective c compiled).

Good developers deserve to be paid well, otherwise ITunes will become a dirty “marketplace” just like Microsoft products.

This is “rick,” and I’d like to clarify a few things here: first, I am definitely not a hacker. I don’t write posts as often here but I am a contributor. I want to thank everyone who gave their honest feedback.

This post was meant to be a simple observation of the market trend and nothing more. In short, I’m simply pointing out that many people are putting in quite a bit of effort to try to create iPhone applications without using Objective-C. I am by no means trying to make a generalized statement in favor of one product over another.

Finally, as I am a developer myself, I certainly believe good developers should be well compensated. But I also believe that variety and competition should make technology better, not worse.

Having just learned Objective-C I am a little confused by Apple’s intentions with regards to Flash compiled Apps. From what I understand Flash will be unable to use native iPhone controls which should limit its use to games and pure entertainment Apps. With Mono I am a little less concerned because, for me, the complexity of learning C# + Mono + the Mono Touch libraries has to be equally as difficult as learning Objective-C and Cocoa Touch. The Mono stuff only really helps people who already know these tools.

Flash on the other hand is a little less clear. I’ve done a great deal of Flash development in the past using Actionscript. Had I known this was coming I am not sure I would have learned Objective-C.

If the latest developments really do devalue the usefulness of knowing Objective-C I see that as a shame. Apple made huge progress in getting new developers to use their development tools with the iPhone OS. I am not sure how to view these alternative development tools.

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where do you get mono for iphone?

In the future, I expect Adobe to release a platform that will make developing for the iPhone much easier. I can’t remember what its called exactly. But theyre releasing an application that will help developers code for one platform, rather than the iphone, android, blackberry, and all the other mobile devices. This will definitely make development much easier.

I think it’s great that Adobe is coming out with CS5 and
that it will run on the iPhone, but as Louis Gerbag explains the differences
between the Flash apps in the app store and native apps. That being said
I think there will definitely be a niche in the iPhone development market
for Flash apps, I plan on taking a close look at it because at worst it should
make for a very good prototyping/market testing tool.

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